And two days later they were both dead. False prophecy can be a catalyst for false, counterfeit revival, moves of God and ministries! The prophesy was that my church at that time would fail. died March 29, 1976, drowned at Swope Park. If you have marks on your body from sleeping and entering demonic warfare during that time you have some very serious spiritual problems. The 2030s will reveal the family of God. He said,When you go to Kansas Citywe went the next month, in November, and, I am going to tell you four things. So that that glorious Church might be revealed in the last daysbecause the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man! (Bob Jones, tape, Visions and Revelations, 1988.). This is the second day that Bob Jones has been here to impart. Maybe Jones can point to the examples in Scripture where God used lightning for a fire. That certain overcomers become immortal on the earth before Christ even returns. Anytime God is going to start a fire, he starts it with lightning. There was a movement of the Spirit with the youth. . A violet flame is able to extinguish illnesses according to New age teaching. The 1970s reveal the great teachers of God and they began to raise up. December 28, and as usual in the presence of this prophet I brought my iphone and recorded the conversation. Goal:Distributed by Way of Life Literature Inc., the Fundamental Baptist Information Service is an e-mail posting for Bible-believing Christians. I have stated to anyone who has asked me about it for many months that IT IS A CULT. 2Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. The Chiefs Super Bowl win is 33 days into the year and 333 to go because it's a leap year. Will and Judy Pliska, ages 31 and perhaps 29; died in the fall of 1976. I said, Oh, Lord, help us! (F88, p.11) (Highly abnormal!). I write mainly, not to express myself, but to encourage and bless people through writing. I brought a 100 year prophesy for a long time, lets look at it. copyright 2013, Way of Life Literature He met Jesus face to face as there were two lines there; One going to everlasting destruction and one leading to eternal life. .until he met Mike Bickle. It is apparent that what Jones teaches is inserting his own ideas into passages to promote his own agenda- Latter Rain. The pastor finally took another brother with him and asked Bob not to speak out in the servicesto be quiet in services for a period of 30 days. He said that he had heard the audible voice of the Lord about my life. Bob Jones was never asked to leave the church; Bob Jones did not publicly give warning to the church.(Testimony Letter 33), Testimonies From Other Pastors In Kansas City Of Bobs Behaviour, I can verity that he (Bob Jones) was at that time very unstable in his behaviorCAMERON HARVESTER CHURCHFebruary 28, 1990 Dear Ernie, I listened to your tape, do we just keep smiling and say nothing? this last week and thought Id drop you a line to let you know how I feel about it personally & how I am responding to the calls that I have received. This is my Yes to Papa God. Though Bickle was, at first, skeptical of Jones-and even wondered if Jones was a false prophet-he became convinced that Jones was a true prophet when Jones accurately predicted a snowfall on March 21, 1983, after several weeks of unseasonably warm . The tape was an Oral Roberts sermon I came up off the sofa, shouting, IM HEALED! My wife leaped out of her chair and shouted, Hallelujah! For the next 30 minutes all we did was walk around the house shouting thanks to God and proclaiming my healing (Jamie Buckingham, My Summer of Miracles,. , Dr. William Nolen dedicated an entire chapter to his investigation of Kuhlmans healing crusades. . Jones become confident of his standing before the lord that he did all he was supposed to do, as this line approached Him he looked to left and saw men wrapped in dollar bills, men on the inside of a whiskey bottle. Even using a relatively simply model I suspect it would be quite easy to predict this outcome . Derek was going over the Conference and talking about where we were going. His gift was very strong and reliable yet Bob never preferred to be called "Prophet Bob Jones." He was just brother Bob. Although fearful at the time he ran. . And you know there is about a list of 12 people that are the problems why you are here. This is an around-the-clock operation that involves several God-fearing servants and much technological expertise and costs. Bob Jones a Tail of a Prophet MB:=Mike Bikle And at 15 years old, you were taken out of the body. Ford wrote his testimony of the affair, but it was sealed by the courts after Crouch sued to have the matter squelched. Full updates of Bonnie Jones' and or Lyn Kost's ministry available at. Mike Bickle dates the very beginning of their Movement to the first supernatural experiences of Bob Jones. within statistical power series). We were involved with the youth leaders, and we even gave them quite a bit of land in Lake Ozarks. The long and the short of it was that God had a new direction and, in essence,He was sending me to Kansas City. . Weeks was also forced to move out of his $2.5 million country club estate. a leading member of that church totally repudiate the story as given. Bob Jones is nothing more than a story teller who attaches Christs name to what he is doing. Visions and Revelations.). Other items we sell to help fund our expensive literature and foreign church planting ministries. Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. Theyll move in the power that Christ did. Really a profit submitting to a preacher? One plague was influenza while the other was like influenza in nature. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. And the whole thing was shut down. The 1980s reveal the prophets of God. It went like this: Euossa, Euossa, use rela sema calah mala kanah leulla ssage nalan. 2, 1993 appearance in Columbus, Ohio, indicating that he would be sitting in seat 4C (first class) on both legs of that trip, and the air fare would be $728.17 Likewise, his October, 1992 trip to Cleveland cost the Ministry $855, and again, he was sitting in the first cabin.18 But . Bonnie Jones has a great love for the Lord, the Word, and the Cross of Jesus. And the Lord was tellin me what they were doin. Incredible as it seems, Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. So much of what is called prophecy is not truly prophecy. seven young people under 30 died in a 6-week period. His . We had a youth camp there. Their home in Tampa was valued at $2.22 million and the condo in New York, at $3.5 million. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. This is exactly the type of tongues I have heard dozens of times at Pentecostal and charismatic meetings in various parts of the world, but it is nonsense. No wonder you are like you areTheyve got you in the crazy ward anyway, and you truly are crazy. Barry suddenly starts talking about an old Bob Jones prophecy about the "honkers". Of course, I had no way to interpret that. The CORPORATE Christ they promote is identical to the Cosmic Christ of the occultics. Will and Judy were dedicated Christians and were youth leaders. 3:10-13, Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. Below you will find a handful of new images from last night, Nigh 43 of the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring. Vol. One disc will have Bob's prophecy on it with spontaneous instrumental praise and the other one will be just the same music . Jones claimed to have had 100 "open visions" giving him revelation about this movement. Two nights! In remembrance of his zeal for preaching the Word and seeking the salvation of . I did not know how to interpret a person who claimed that he heard the audible voice of God. Blinded by a refusal to judge anything, esp. AGE 15 LATE 30S TOTAL ABANDONMENT TO SIN/ DEMONIC VISIONS AND POSSESSION BJ: From 15 to in my late 30sI tried to find peace in sin and I searched for it in every bar and every fist fight, every gambling game I could get into. (F88, p.3) MB: The story is real in-depth.. .he really got himself into some heavy stuff of sin and just always in Street fights and bar fights and beatin people up and drinkin alcohol, and then some other areas toopretty heavy duty in (F88, p. 4) BJ: . Really you are so out of line you must be on a island, no where in the Word does a profit submit to anyone but God. Bob spoke about some things to occur, and gave Mike a personal, seemingly, supernatural word of prophecy, that convinced Mike he was from God, throwing out all of the red flags and other warnings, embracing everything Bob said, and actually building his ministry upon Bobs revelations! He starts getting five to ten dreams and visions a night from 1974 to the present, supposedly from God. As told above, Bob out right lied about his warning prophecies, at Berean Baptist Church, and actually recounted two different stories, both lies, as the pastor of the church and another member, recounted what actually transpired. Everything about Paul was often dramatic! Immortalization for a Melchizedek Priesthood? Bob's wife Bonnie continues to expand upon Bob's message: "Did you learn to Love ?", and reveals the heart of The father for the coming . And in thy name cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works? They will move into things of the supernatural that no one has ever moved in before. Feb.4, 1930 - Feb.14, 2014 Bob Jones' death is being mourned by Christians around the world, while his life is being recounted and celebrated. They have been waiting on promises that go back many, many years. In a Facebook post by Pastor Vlad Savchuk, he shared in detail about the revival happening on the Asbury campus. That is a lie. Wolves in sheep's clothing! There are going to be thousands of young people gathered from around the world. Header Images: Kansas City Chiefs [@chiefs]. They wont do anything to you. And immediately, I cried out for help. The demon speaking to him in the hospital, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. In 1991, Swaggart was again in hot water when police in Indio, California, stopped him on a traffic violation and found that the woman riding with him was a prostitute. Mike Bickle asked him in a dialogue You say that you saw the throne room? . what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. So according to their end time prophetic army they have a base 10-20% accuracy level. The accompanying story said that the two spent three nights in a five-star hotel which Hinn booked under a false name. He said, There will be a resistance and a controversy. But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. They themselves will put death itself underneath their feet a Church that has reached the full maturity of the god-man! Amen! Sir Bob Jones gave up drinking a year ago and says he still feels like a young man. Mike Bickle is not anymore reassuring:Now, obviously, probably about 80% of whats in the Body of Christ thats called prophecy is fleshiness. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. exposed his extravagant lifestyle and his shady fund-raising practices. Every miracle, sign and wonder that has ever been in the Bible theyll move in it consistently. His purpose for this people, in a hum-an sense, had some of its roots back in the hills of Arkansas when Bob was, ah, a young boy. This was the only other recorded death in the church in a 2-year span. And when that happens that means youve got some incense thats gone up. Bob Jones, who operated in prophetic ministry for more than four decades, has gone home to be with the Lord. He taught Word-Faith doctrines and promised prosperity and healing to those who supported his ministry and exercised faith. He was at warfare in the realm of trances and visions and there was marks left on his body. (Discernment newsletter vol.1. He gave me four very important words in October 1982. This man uses little or no Scripture so we know He has no light in him (Isa. His 1st spurious encounter, is with an appearance, supposedly, of the Arch Angel Gabriel, riding a talking white horse. Did I have enough time? And there was a man that walked beside me and he said, You can look now, Bob, and see and I looked down and my robe was like crystal light (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988. It got dangerous. Bob and Bonnie Jones, Fort Mill, SC Bob had a vision of a sword of light and power; it was like - . . . At 5 o'clock on the morning of May 27 th the Lord began to speak to me so I grabbed my pen and pad and began to write. 2, p. 2). BJ:= Bob Jones "Viola and I were involved in a church in '76. We dont throw out the baby with the bath water. These type of descriptions and non- conformity to the Bibles Jesus certainly raises the suspicion of a another Jesus, or spirit at work. d.His prophetic ministry is rejected by church after church, until he meets Mike Bickle. Jones has not changed his perspective in over 20 years, he continues to influence many. 94 were here. There visions can mean anything they want as they use allegorical interpretations for their visions, as comets and floods all have an accompanying spiritual meaning that makes sense only to the initiate. Besides that, he was never a member. Im Christel Berns. Jones was using his alleged spiritual authority and prophetic anointing to induce women to disrobe before him in his office. Hinn admitted to being with White in Rome and having a friendship and an inappropriate relationship with her, but both parties claimed there was no affair. . And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. coming into that Divine Nature of Jesus Christ[Bob Jones, transcribed from 1988 tape Interview Bob Jones with Mike Bickle). The 5 fold ministry is found in Eph.4:11 and there is no priesthood mentioned, it is about equipping the church. If he is not the same then how can we know we are encountering the authentic one? All rights reserved. when the prophetic is supposedly leading the way. The Remnant Seed, a prophecy by Bob Jones at Hamilton, Ontario, March 1998: That is not a biblical reason for divorce. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. Change). TBN also paid thousands of dollars in debts that Ford had accrued. You find out Who your Daddy is, you find out who you are. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Theres some prayers thats gone on here that the answer is yes. There will bepeople standing against you, and the Lord says, Do not answer them, as the Lord Himself will answer them.*Augustine Acula was defrocked a few years later for homosexual activity, and viewed as a false prophet. *This is a common, yet dangerous, erroneous mindset many people in the prophetic/apostolic movement entertain. And it will start a Gods fire( Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, 1988. , Feb. 1993, p. 64). I warned them about a motorcycle. The office I humbly have been annoitied for is a Prophet my territory is the "USA" I'm so excited and so young full of Hope and deeply honored to know Jesus and honor his great . According to Bob Jones when he was 13- The first time I ever seen the white horse was when an angel called Gabriel was riding. Bob Jones- a Tail of a Prophet. Its yea and amen, and thats what Hes calling you into: that holy place of divine health. cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people. , March 1992, p. 90), he said there is no higher calling than ecumenical bridge-building. When he visited Father Divine in New York, he brought along four valets, four bodyguards, three secretaries, his housekeeper, a hairdresser, three musicians, 60 singers, a personal cook, and a dietitian. in May 2007 included statements by former Without Walls staff members who testified that the Whites had shifted their focus to money and fame. In this message Bob Jones shares his life story from the very first time that the Lord called him at a young age. Bob was observing the people in these lines. he said,Because they rejected me many placesand the Lord has shown me many times, and He (God) said this, this group that was yet to come, He said they would never, ever reject me. He said, This is my family till the end. And I thought, Hes got to be the false prophet for sure. Any guy that prophesies that Imgoing to accept him, he is for sure the false prophet. Go kill them or forgive them, Shortly thereafter in 1974 Bob begins having technicolor visions-often between 5 and 10 a night-and supposedly for the next 15 years. For they are the best of all the generations that have ever been upon the face of the earth. e. Grandma Wynn, age 89; died January 12, 1978. T he death of Bob Jones, Sr., at age 84 last month closed the era of hard-hitting evangelists of the Billy Sunday ilk, which reached its peak between the two world wars. 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