I used to start at midnight, but thats gotten pushed up, so now its common for me to start at three in the morning. I didnt do anything interesting. Famously known to have sidestepped buying into browsing the Internet or even owning a computer, the iconic humorist doesn't - nor will she ever . CLEMENTE: Is there any aspect of New Jersey that you miss? Fran Lebowitz is a writer born on 27th October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, United States. There was one 75-year-old woman who was a torch singer; she had varicose veins, and shed get up on this stool and sing Marlene Dietrich songs, also at ten in the morning. CLEMENTE: You failed to describe your qualifications to be mayor of the city. Capitalism, pretty old-fashioned, too. Lebowitz: I have to say I have only written back to important people, people in the publishing business. Im going out. Im the only person left who is this irresponsible. But I thought it was a job. I saw an ad in the Village Voice that said WantedPoets. This really weird guy named Jack Scully, who was an ex-monk, had somehow convinced Max Gordon, who owned the Village Vanguard, that the fact that the Vanguard was empty during the day was losing him a great fortune. On the Boston University phone you dialed N-E-E-D and a concerned Jewish graduate student came over and took me to Mass. Im sorry, were full up. Then she published two books of essays Metropolitan Life and Social Studies - both wonderful. The essays were published inMetropolitan Life(1978) andSocial Studies(1981). Lebowitz: My writing habits are basically nonwriting habits. When I was really young I wanted to be a toll taker because I thought they kept the money. I had this aunt who had a book called The Night Visiters. Their antidote to this was giving me about 22 Thorazines. To me, dictating a book seems impossible. Lebowitz: I guess after about six months I started getting caught constantly. Maybe Ill donate them to one of those film schools in Los Angeles for a tax write-off. High Times: What was your best subject in school? . What are they going to possibly say thats of interest? At twenty-one, she began a column, I Cover the Waterfront, for Andy WarholsInterviewmagazine, before moving toMademoiselle. So just think, if there were, say, only 10 percent of the hotels that exist now, there would be all these apartments for people who live in New York, as opposed to people visiting New York. It reminds me of when a choreographer I know was creating a ballet. She is an actress and producer, known for The Wolf of Wall Street (2013), Law & Order (1990) and Law & Order: Criminal Intent (2001). One of the movies was The Thing with Two Heads, starring Ray Milland and Rosie Grier. Instead of representing oil as self-evident, Sinclair imbues it with a kaleidoscopic range of associations that reimagine it on visionary new terms.. By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. It was actually a show for farmers. Fran Lebowitzs trademark is the sneer; she disapproves of virtually everything except sleep, cigarette smoking, and good furniture. And people sent in money. I just talked too much. I just dont like domestic life. Lebowitz discoursed without pause for two hours, chain-smoking all the while. Subscribe for free:Stitcher|Apple Podcasts|Google Play, 2023 The Paris Review. I would stand at the border and say, Youre coming here to live, really? For numerous reasons. Fran Lebowitz was born on 27 October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, USA. Not so much to put anything in its place as to give an account of what had happened to me. Ive never seen the Kardashians; Im not sure who they are. I dont want them to come. People seem to think there is some connection between talking and writing, but I love to talk and if there were some connection between the two of them I would be the most prolific writer in the history of the world. I never saw those issues. But her crankiness betrayed a heart of gold. Interview was then a film magazine, and it reviewed almost every film that was released. High Times: What brands have you smoked since then? Photograph by Christopher Macsurak. Fran describes Ralph Lauren's copying, and eventual embodiment, of Brooks Brothers WASP style. And you didnt have to think about money every second. Wasnt London still a capital of empire in the mid-60s, the cultural center of the Commonwealth? I took popular tunes, like Michael Row the Boat Ashore, and wrote lyrics having to do with my family. Since we are on the pages of Interview magazine, should we go back to your beginnings at Interview? The other is that horses are hands. CLEMENTE: No, I can sleep. But I just cant smile at people for money. They had a style sheet that was kind of the opposite of the New York Times. The whole time before I write I spend on the phone begging people for ideas and solace and sympathy. FRAN LEBOWITZ: The blood pressure or the air pressure? In an essay specially commissioned for the podcast, Aisha Sabatini Sloan describes rambling around Paris with her father, Lester Sloan, a longtime staff photographer for Newsweek, and a glamorous woman who befriends them. At twenty-one, she began a column called "I Cover the Waterfront," for Andy Warhol's Interview magazine. Fran Lebowitz moved to New York City from her hometown of Morristown, NJ when she was 19. There could be butchers and bookstores. Like a city. I always was. Lucy stops sending her salary home, and I did stop sending mine. If you were going to have dinner with some of those older people you mentioned, say writers, which ones would you pick? Why did your family send you to America? CLEMENTE: And the illustrations were by Marc Balet? The way the admissions director of Harvard decides who goes to Harvard, Id like to decide who comes here. He wasnt a comedian, but he was the funniest talk-show guest. Then, in 1972, she began writing for Andy Warhols Interview. Used Planes comes out every single month. There are a lot of funny people around, and a lot of writers too, but somehow the combination of great humor and great writing has become an exceedingly rare commodity in the modern world. LEBOWITZ: No. Some years ago, Lebowitz sold a proposal of a novel entitled "Exterior Signs of Wealth," a reference to a French conspicuous-consumption tax figured on the basis of display of wealth. I would rather have a typist. What youre supposed to have is, say, all Henry Jamess novels and the letters, which is more elegant. And, of course, New York was always more expensive than any other place in the United States, but you could live in New Yorkand by New York, I mean Manhattan. Interview still frame courtesy of Stephanie Black. I like New York. Full-time Im watching daytime TV., The following interview took place one afternoon in an apartment overlooking the East River. I thought theyd probably just give me another joint. I mean, knowing James Joyce . Lebowitz: I was 19 at the time, so I thought it was entertaining. Who hasnt typed for me in a long time? I could probably get a secretary for what I spend getting my friends to type for me. At the age of 27, Fran Lebowitz has been suddenly hailed as the funniest writer to come down the pike since Dorothy Parker or, by some accounts, Oscar Wilde. For some reason, I decided to cut off my hair and bleach it blond. Get notified of our the latest cannabis news, exclusive brand deals, events updates and more! She was an outsider in Antigua, and she looked different. Fran Lebowitz.the toast of the town; a brilliant writer who almost never writes. My first school punishment was sitting in the corner in kindergarten wearing a Band-Aid over my mouth and holding up a sign that said I am a chatterbox. That was my first run-in with authority. They also deserve him as candidate, all these so-called mainstream RepublicansI dont know what thats supposed to mean. He writes for the New Yorker. I rolled my own cigarettes. LEBOWITZ: It really depended. CLEMENTE: I know you follow politics, and I always thought you would make an excellent mayor of New York. Lebowitz: I went through a period of watching $20,000 Pyramid, but it was too frustrating because every day I won $20,000 and I have no money. Now I call up friends during the day and theyre writing. We went to the Stratford Shakespeare Festival in Connecticut and interviewed the star of the play, and I wrote this incredibly bitchy Rex Reedish interview with her and got an outraged letter from her press agent. If I lived in another country, like a country that was, say, an enemy of the United States, I would be more amused than I am. Everyone was paid in cash. Her hundreds of plants are layered into a composition of informal design, expressive of her refined aesthetic and untroubled eccentricity. January 30, 2011. I like people older than me and children, really little children. when asked about his sexuality replied "I cover the waterfront." Andy said it went over like a lead balloon. Not only dont they not understand people different from them, they hardly understand themselves. Photograph: Ali Smith/The Observer. LEBOWITZ: Well, you know, so few Americans vote that we may not even notice it. The two close friends first came together for an HBO documentary Public Speaking in 2010, directed by Scorsese, which introduced Lebowitz to a new generation and helped established her continued relevance. People say, Well, what would you do with Times Square? And I always think, Gee, I dont know. I wanted to be a beatnik. I dont like to go out during the dayits too crowded. Lebowitz: No. She is alive to the advantage in the irony that her literary heritage had not predicted her, exalted, brave, free. Paper, you can feel it. FRANCESCO CLEMENTES LARGE-SCALE INSTALLATION, ENCAMPMENT, WILL TRAVEL TO EVELEIGH, AUSTRALIA, THIS SUMMER. She needed something bigger to disapprove of, and so her column became I Cover the Waterfront, and her beat became the entire universe of questionable taste. "If you can eat it, it's not art. I remember the darkness of being sent awaysheer misery of a kind that I didnt know existed. The two things I hate the most. I dont need anything so snappy. I cant believe anyone has ever made a ballet. I have to take the TV off the chair. In fact, most of the offending language appears in the trailer alone. [Clemente laughs] I mean, the great thing about New Jersey is that its close to New York. I like Ebony too, but its no Sepia. In introducing Fran Lebowitz to a contemporary large audience, the combination of biographical perspective and quasi-vrit style addresses the opposition between private and public (Arendt and Habermas). The person who checks you in and takes your name and insurance came over to me and actually said, to me, Why did you choose Mass. Lebowitz: Every single time Ive ever written I thought I couldnt do it. I could have written a trilogy in 11 hours. You dont have to pay me. She said, It is out of the question that this is going to come in without needing editing. And when I gave it in, she called to apologize. It would be as if the letters were sitting there, or the words, smoking cigarettes, staring at you, as if to say, Well? Polka Dotty ate seeds and celery tops, and my mother would give me Polka Dottys food, and I would go downstairs and eat it. She went from the New School in Manhattan to Franconia College in New Hampshire, and worked at Magnum Photos and at the teen magazine Ingenue. Its almost as good as being a mechanic. I did not connect eating with staying alive, so I didnt think anything of eating the food. I clearly had one of those eating problems, but I didnt know what they were. . 19 January 2021. Lebowitz: Not Samuel Z. Arkoff or anyone, but the press agent there loved me. So Scully put on something called Village Varieties, and he hired all these teenaged artists-to-be, and it opened at ten in the morning and closed at six. Id call it Hello, This is Fran.. So I have a state diploma. Im the worlds greatest daughter. Immigrants are good, tourists are bad. I finish things now, and I think, Who was the last person who typed for me? As boring as reading it. General in Boston. But you could live in New York. Fran was raised in Morristown, New Jersey. It wasnt enough that he had Charles Mingus playing there every night. High Times: Why did you smoke an ounce of marijuana in one day? I believe Im a great friend. Lebowitz: Sepia is my all-time favorite. Fran Lebowitz slams NYC mayor Eric Adams. At the beginning, every day, you asked me a hundred questions about myself. After the latters death, the former mysteriously disappeared. Thats good for at least an hour of not writing. I saw the super once, just when I moved in, and I pointed out to him there was no ceiling in the bathroom. And I reviewed those. Because someone once told me that horses legs are actually like fingers and that their hooves are actually fingernails. That tends to upset people. Fran readily agreed, as she was banned from most movie screenings because of her old column, Best of the Worst. I think Brigid Polk did that once. The most interesting one I went to was for a company that wanted to make a vodka for women. Lebowitz: No. Well, perhaps, but I never really felt I belonged even in Antigua, even when I was little. This has never occurred. Unless they die. by Anonymous: reply 136: January 15, 2021 3:23 AM: I adore her. Because it doesnt agitate against human nature. This conversation began at a public event at the 92nd Street Y in 2013, and was picked up again in her Vermont kitchen eight years later, in the summer of 2021, when the social restrictions of the pandemic had, for a time, eased. Any attempt to prove otherwise constitutes unacceptable behavior. High Times: Have you gotten any marriage proposals? Florinda Donner and Carlos Castenada were both accused of fabricating their encounters with Indigenous healers. I didnt lead a riot or set fire to the gym or do anything James Deanish. "And then we did it the Saturday . So they would talk to me. By Meredith Blake Staff Writer. Lebowitz: Tareyton, because thats what my mother smoked. They told you what to write. I Married Joan, I Love Lucy, I loved all those situation comedies. Fran Lebowitz. . But after a while Fran outgrew the bad-flick format. LEBOWITZ: I mean, because I had no money. He packs them, and then every time you move, they have to be put in different ways. ), occasional actor ("Law & Order . There are more male writers who own guns than any other profession except police officers. But what would also be impossible, would be to write on one of those word processors. High Times: What was the style? Even ones that preceded me. But so far I have not. High Times: Do you watch anything else on TV besides Family Feud? My inspiration for wanting to be a beatnik was not Allen Ginsberg or Jack Kerouac but Maynard G. Krebs from the Dobie Gillis show. Karl Lagerfeld did this, I dont know what youd call it, this project, where he and his publishing company made this crate. I now dread the getting-it-typed part as much as I dread the writing part. But now, as Ive grown up, all my friends have developed much more mature writing habits. There were maybe 40 poems, the only poems I ever wrote. Like, in World War I, a whole generation of Englishmen died all at once. I remember it because they gave me the topic: What was the effect of AIDS on the culture? And I always start writing very late at night. LEBOWITZ: Here are my qualifications: I am a New Yorker. If you can say 'I'll have that and a cup of coffee,' it's not art." 6. I met Marc in . High Times: When you were writing The Best of the Worst what was the best bad movie you ever saw? High Times: Were you a behavior problem in school? And then they would get it, and I would get these polite little letters back rejecting it. Talking is not writing. High Times: What jobs have you had besides writing? I think there should be an oldies TV station like theres an oldies radio station, with Dobie Gillis and Life of Riley and all those great shows. October 3, 2022 | 2:24pm. He was the one that was supposed to be president. Fran Lebowitz, the writer, cultural critic, and professional raconteur, spoke with me over the phone via landline, as she famously doesn't own a cell phone or computer. And I said, Well, I dont really care. The duo were discussing their childhoods, saying as children they were never able to partake in "adult" conversations unless they were . It was charity really. One of which is that I strongly object to having more than one generation of a family being president. SHOP NOW. 2011. He said, Id like you to come and sit there while Im doing it. Fran is a renowned humorist and essayist. I write so slowly that I could write in my own blood without hurting myself. Richard Robinson thinks there should be a TV station thats only the best commercials. People say, "All the things that we like about New York are gone.". Fran began her pro writing career at 20. You sit or stand in the subway, and you look aroundI do, because I dont have a phone so Im not playing a gameand you see people. And especially the ones that I knew. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. To celebrate, were republishing Glenn OBriens interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. Also a TV show that was on Sunday morning for four hours: I cant remember the name of it, but Sonny Fox was the emcee. When I was younger, I might have said six months, although I think the longest relationship I was ever in was three years. Im a great relative. And then I would go to the Factory and turn it in. At that time colleges had these hotlines, and you could call up and say, My friend just ate 14 pounds of acid, and some graduate student would drive over in his little Chevy and rescue you. Lebowitz: I dont really remember it. The good thing about being in someone elses apartment is its so much easier to leave than it is to get someone out. French symbolist? Lebowitz: I like Marshall Brickman. Once a girl was sitting on the window ledge smoking a cigarette and the matron walked in and the girl jumped out the window. Lebowitz: I was beatnikesque. I dont think I was still writing for Interview, but once you go outside your natural audience, there are tons of people that dont like you. And now I eat a steak before I write, like a prizefighter. I picked up two famous people: one was Dr. Joyce Brothers, who undertipped me, and one was Rod Steiger. I remember she wore her hair in a French roll, and she wore what they called a hobble skirt. Why dont you just put two of them in storage? The last one took me 11 hours to type. I love Richard Pryor. "Pretend it's a citywhere there are other people ," she pleads. I had an ingrained hatred of Jeb before I ever saw him. Initially, she covered "Best of the Worst Movies," but later changed the name of her column to "I Cover the . But, I mean, no one talked about money. I like Family Circle, Ladies Home Journal, anything with recipes that use marshmallows and American cheese in the same dish. Steve paid me excessive amounts of money to answer his telephone. Fabulous. I ended up smoking Lucky Strikes, just because I liked the way it looked, the gesture. They told you what kind of sex to put in it. It was written in the nineteenth century by, I think, a seven- or eight-year-old child who was the daughter of someone very rich who had this book printed. I never had any machines. It was the only thing I wanted to be except for a brief flirtation with wanting to be a cellist. She is a presence; everything begins to happen when she talks. And I was really distraught. And as Fran took on polyester, landlords, press agents and pop psychology, her reputation grew. One of my all-time favorite funny people was Jack Douglas. I had such contempt for a certain kind of writing, which I would now call white writing. It was so dull and mannered. I have to move the lamp to the desk. I wrote a musical comedy for my grandparents 35th wedding anniversary. The idea of writing something without publishing it is too horrifying to me. 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